London resident presents to London City Council May 18/11 regarding OTA CBC TV

Dear Minister Moore,

London resident, David Winter, will be making a presentation to the City of London tomorrow morning regarding CBC TV’s plans to end all over-the-air TV in the market following August 31, 2011.  Had a chance to chat with David online yesterday. An edited transcript follows. Note: “You” is me (Steven).

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[You]
Report · 1:00pm
Hi David. It’s Steven.

[David Winter]
Report · 1:00pm
Hey Steven

[You]
Report · 1:00pm
Ready to start in say, 5 minutes?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:00pm
sure

[You]
Report · 1:00pm
Cool.

[David Winter]
Report · 1:01pm
btw, I was mentioned on the Radio again today. And the Mayor was told about it as well

[You]
Report · 1:02pm
Good stuff.

[You]
Report · 1:07pm
Great.
Thanks for your time today.
Please introduce yourself and outline your current over-the-air (OTA) television viewing.

[David Winter]
Report · 1:07pm
David Winter
I am an IT Consultant here in London Ontairo

[You]
Report · 1:11pm
Tell me about why you are presenting to the City of London on May 18th.

[David Winter]
Report · 1:12pm
On August 31, CRTC has mandated that all TV stations OTA in a population of 300,000 or more to switch to Digital.
All the channels except (29-Global) are going digital. CBC french and english have decided to shut down, rather then convert. There will be coverage in the rest of Ontario, including multiple coverages, in eastern Ontairo and Algonquin Park, some cases Oshawa, will have feeds from 3 signals of CBC. But London, and Surrounding areas will have no coverage

CBC, is a goverment run agency, and such is taxpayer subsidy over a billion dollars per year. even so, they have decided that they do not have enough money in London, to keep the station on air, and convert it to digital

This does not just effect London, but Strathroy, St Thomas, Woodstock, Tilsonburg, Ingersol, and all points in between, that rely on the signal from London
We are asking CITY council, to write a letter to CBC, to request it rethink and stay in London
CBC, does not believe that OTA is big in London. In London, there is more then 30 000 people that this will effect, that is not counting the other citys and towns as well

[You]
Report · 1:20pm
Why are you so passionate about CBC being available OTA in London?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:21pm
I feel, that London is being short change all the time from CBC. I am trying to help the Londoners that can not have a say. I believe there is a lot of people in London, that are upset, but can not do anything about this. I am here to help them.

Peterborugh and Kingston, both have CBC televisions that have local news. Brighton, will even getting a digital change.

[You]
Report · 1:23pm
CBC has stated they it will only convert to digital in markets that are also “production centres”. I gather this approach does not sit well with you. What do you propose CBC do instead in markets like London?
[David Winter]
Report · 1:24pm
Well London could do two things.. They could sell of the rights in the London Area, so that someone like Corus could pick up the rights so that they could run the CBC station, or they could convert this one to digital.
Did you know that both Detroit, and Buffalo have coverage in the municpal areas and London will have nothing after the conversion. That is also not sitting well with me

[You]
Report · 1:26pm
Who should pay to help CBC convert to digital in markets like London?
[David Winter]
Report · 1:27pm
Well since we fund the CBC, I think the CBC should pay
did you know they spent a lot of money on a movie, that they never showed, over a million dollars. That money could have gone for the conversion in London

[You]
Report · 1:28pm
So, should CBC take money out of programming or lay off staff to put money into DTV infrastructure? If not, where are they to get the funds?
Would you like to see the Government of Canada to provide some special funds to help CBC make the transition?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:31pm
I think if the CBC did not waste the money now, they could convert it
They should use the money wisely, and right now, they do not (but that is getting off topic)

[You]
Report · 1:33pm
The CBC has said that even if they get special funds to make the DTV transition, they would spend such funds on other things. Why do you think DTV is such a low priority for CBC?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:34pm
I honestly do not know. Did you know in Windsor, over 25 percent only use OTA coverage

[You]
Report · 1:35pm
What about the CBC asking the CRTC to allow them to continue in analog OTA in mandatory markets where they can’t afford to upgrade?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:36pm
Well I am seeing other TV stations convert with out problems. and they can do it without the goverments help except for TVO which is doing it here in London on August 18th
even small ind stations like CTS and CHCH

That is why I am baffled, also new technology will save them money in the long run.. with electricty etc

[You]
Report · 1:40pm
I understand the issue is that CBC has over 600 transmitters and to upgrade all of them in mandatory markets would cost too much. Would you like to see CBC multiplex with other broadcasters like TVO in London (ie: share a digital transmitter rather than have their own)?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:42pm
They already share the same tower. But because London is large, there should not be an issue with this as well. We do not need to share a transmitter here in London. We are the hub of Southwestern Ontario, the 10th largest city in Canada. We need to have our own transmitter

From London, we can serve from Kitchener to Chatham all points in between

[You]
Report · 1:46pm
To wrap up, Do you feel Shaw’s offer to give anyone who loses OTA TV as a result of the transition a free satellite dish, hook up and basic service to be a solution?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:48pm
No, because that will not be free…
and they will not offer it inLondon, because we are not loosing all OTA stations
that will be there excuse.

[You]
Report · 1:49pm
According to the CRTC decision regarding Shaw’s purchse of Global, Shaw has to give a selection of basic channels for free. Also, I don’t think you have to lose all stations to qualify. Even one is enough, as I understand it.

[David Winter]
Report · 1:50pm
are these number one going to be in HD?

[You]
Report · 1:50pm

Not sure.
[David Winter]
Report · 1:51pmIf that was available, Shaw would prob going bankrupt in London :):) that is off the record
there is over 300 thousand people that could qualify for this

[You]
Report · 1:52pm
I know, it sounds too good to be true but I heard the CRTC chairman KvF say it to my colleague when we were at BCE’s CTV hearing.

[David Winter]
Report · 1:52pm
I do not belive it

[You]
Report · 1:52pm
OK, Second last question: If CBC goes dark in Ontario, who will get the blame? CBC, the CRTC, the Province, the Feds, local officials?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:52pm
CBC

[You]
Report · 1:54pm
How do you think the City of London will rule on May 18 about the letter to CBC? If they do send it, how to do you think CBC will respond?

[David Winter]
Report · 1:54pm
Mayor Joe Fontana is already on board, so is the whole city of London.. We have had enough of getting short changed, when it comes to the CBC

[You]
Report · 1:55pm
OK. Thanks for your time.

[David Winter]
Report · 2:01pm
Thanks

-end-

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3 Responses to London resident presents to London City Council May 18/11 regarding OTA CBC TV

  1. David Winter says:

    Council Meeting FAC for saving the CBC I have in two parts here is the first part

    And Second Part

  2. Greg Fowler says:

    Thanks for covering this issue. My own video of David’s presentation is here:
    http://onlinelondon.ca/2011/05/18/20110518-fac-5-cbc-abandonment/

  3. John De Sousa says:

    CBC is paid by canadians and therefore we have a right to free CBC TV, I will not pay Rogers, or Bell, or Shaw for garbage multiple useless channels.

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